i think it was slightly tongue-in-cheek. which is why i'm putting it in my signature.

that, and i'm so happy that i might have brought back 'pump up da jamz'

I like a bit of aggro bass, but it's that sexier more melodic sound that really makes me want to come back to a tune.

I think this fits well here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/se ... -interview

This dude says it best:
"I'm really enjoying my 30s so far, I would have cared 10 years ago about the fact that his music is just the worst parts of a few different trends and how americans barely wanted to know about dubstep back when it was exciting 5 or 6 years ago

and that he looks like such a little idiot (probably a nice lad, but.....)

Now I just don't care. Here is a tip. In 5 years time some american punk will get really famous making music that sounds like Burial for Americans (probably burial crossed with Moby) and the Guardian will write a featurette about how he has changed 'electronic music'....."

The guardians on the same hyperbolic plane as boomkat. The incessant need to claim any form of dance music is new and 'emerging from the underground' is too much. It's fucking house mate! it's been around for quite a while you massive plonker.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicbl ... tant-house

Ah I love reading all these opinions! Definitely shows what an open-minded lot you all are. Proud to be a part of this forum <3

thanks bro,

look at the glitch mob good example of it in this genre, although i don't think they're bad i think there output was better when they where still quite underground.

i do agree with the, if you don't like it don't listen to it point, which is what i do. I guess some people just have a hard time understanding how some music gets so popular. either that or they're jealous of other peoples success.

People how grew alongside a new-ish genre will always complain where it ends up. I never really got into OG dubstep, I heard rephlex's grime series and some of planet mu's 'sublow' releases way back when, but it didn't really grab me (I guess back then it had the 'everyones on K' label back then, which wasn't too appealing). I has having fun with breakcore and ragga and it seemed too slow.

Saying that though, those people who grew with that scene, helped it really break through the underground (as it really was underground/a niche) have every right to voice their opinion on it's current state and the popular perception of it. It's almost the exact opposite of what it started out as: an extension of garage/grime with a melancholic bleakness and an extreme focus on chest rattling sub. The term 'dubstep' is now injected with enough edam to start a cheese factory.

Luckily the term (in its true sense) has all but been abandoned and the producers who made it what it was have evolved. As a result there's some absolutely brilliant tunage incorporating other influences that might have been ignored if dubstep remained an underground movement. So maybe it's a blessing in disguise?

Haha.. My brother and I were talking about this the other day.. how the dubstep and "related" genres are just contests for who can make the most "filthy" bassline.

It happens with most music. Happened to DnB and now Dubstep.

Just remember to scrap off the top layer of crud and you'll find some deep, thought provoking gems hidden away in the darkness.

You must be loving the new 160bpm juke wave then, eh?



Truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN28LPcl3EE

That is all

I agree with you, Mr Ricorb!

yeah! Y'allz Plonkers!!!

haha, yeah it's alright. I think the main thrust of breakcore was it's utter madness, plus the roots of it being quite jungle-esque. It gathered quite a reputable following here Bristol around '05, back when Drop the lime was making some rather extreme stuff.

I like most things, we're really spoilt for choice here in brissle. Get to hear all the passing trends in electronic music.

And I got sigged for the first time here. This is HUGE.

I love that guy.

Poor James Blake - Brostep has its moments; some tunes I like, some I hate. Hell, even some of the stuff I've made can boarder on "bro", but I don't really give a shit. I write what I want and what makes me happy - if other people dig it, sweet.

If you don't like the brostep vibe, then don't listen to it - sounds like James Blake has a wild hair up his ass because the sound is really popular out here in the US and he just doesn't like it - boo hoo. Personally, I can dig a more upbeat and aggressive dubstep sound - some of the earlier stuff I listened to 6-10 years ago or so, put me to sleep. I think some producers take the upbeat and aggressive sound a bit too far, but at least I don't pass out at my desk while listening to it.

Over the years, the thing I've loved the most about music, is the freedom of it and that joy I get out of watching it evolve over time - even if I hate a particular genre, it's still awesome to see how styles mesh and morph into new things. back in the early 90's I never imagined there would be a genre of music called "glitch-hop", but here we are - what's going to pop up in the next 10-20 years?

It really doesn't sound like he's royally pissed off, and I really don't think he cares about pop in the US. He's just expressing his opinion of it.
Like he said:



As I said a couple of posts above this, people have every right to be pissed off at the public perception of dubstep now. Dubstep has become something completely different from what they helped create. It has become this pumped up student/frat-centric pile of massive presets and stupid sounds. This happens every time a scene goes stagnant or as some people put it: reaches mainstream. Just like DNB, its now turned tranceir then PVD closing Amnesia in 02. The complete opposite of its intentions during it's inception.

(Note: I'm not saying I don't like it )

im starting to feel the juke/footwork "wave" you speak of

I'm not a fan of James Blake but he's welcome to his opinion and I think it's refreshing that he's saying how he feels and not just sucking up to the biz.

My favorite dubstep is still the stuff from the beginning when there were no rules and DJ's used to complain you couldn't mix it because everyone put the snares in a different place. Can you believe that? Dubstep Allstars 1, Grime 1, the early Tempa and Hotflush singles. That shit was amazing.

Absolutely agree on that one. Hotflush was/still is a fantastic label

2004 Boys and Girls!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO4NUI1ib6Q

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